All my clothes look massive and baggy. I mean it’s nice losing 6 pounds but jeez I still need some clothes to wear.
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im not even an artist and these prices are hurting my feelings
This is what I have to dig through every time I look for new jobs to apply for.
For non-artists, let’s give you a little perspective.
For me, an illustration takes a bare minimum of 6 hours. Mind you, that’s JUST the drawing part. Not the research, or the communications, or gathering information. Just drawing.
That’s if it’s a simple illustration.
My art deco or more detailed stuff can take 20+ hours each.
Even simple, cartoony things still take at least 3 hours.
Let’s go with the second one. 2 illustrations for $25. Figuring 6 hours each. 12 hours total, for JUST the drawings. That’s approximately $2.08/hour.
Asking these prices is an insult. But what’s even more hurtful is there are people out there that will take these jobs. Which only encourages rates like this to be acceptable. And there are people who will try to say these are just what you have to do to get started.
I believed that. So my first coloring gigs were just $10/page. The day someone offered me $25/page for just flatting work, I realized just how wrong I’d been. I’m still not making the rates I’d like, but now I refuse anything below $25/page. Because there is value in my time.
In any standardized industry, even ones that pay piece rate over hourly, these numbers are criminal.
Do your fellow artists a favor. Never accept jobs like these. There are others that pay legitimate rates. Or at least closer to legitimate.
Such baby bullshit. Don’t even get out of bed for these rates.
If you are an artist who wants to make money off their art, I highly suggest you buy The Graphic Artist’s Guild Handbook. It goes in depth about copyright issues and even contains contract and model release templates. The 2013 book *I believe* states the average professional charges $72 an hour. This article calculated that to make a 40k annual salary you would need to charge about $60 per hour.
After graduating from Art Center in 2012, I think I asked for somewhere between $35-45 an hour and got laughed at by multiple big name clients, which was infuriating, sadly expected, and terrifying with over $100K worth of student loans staring me in the face. If they tell you it will be “great exposure” that’s a red flag. Ask yourself how their exposure can compare to your Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, Flickr and Facebook pages combined?
And when you do get a decent paying gig, PROTECT YOURSELF. You have the right to negotiate and revise a contract. Do not start a job until you have a contract signed. If they don’t provide you with one, MAKE ONE. And make sure you have your bases covered. You can specify in a contract that maybe two revisions are included in your cost, and if they ask you to revise the piece more than twice, they will have to pay extra. In terms of payment schedule, I usually do the 50/50 Method (50% before, 50% after) or the 3/3/3 Method (1/3 before, 1/3 in the middle, 1/3 after all work has been received). Both of those are pretty standard in the industry, as they guarantee you will get compensated for your time, even if the job goes bad.
Remember you have a skill, and you have spent time honing that skill and you deserve to be adequately paid for that time and effort. You will have clients dismiss you because, honest to God they think, “Well, I could do that if I wanted. Hell, my five year old does it now.” No they can’t, because they didn’t, they don’t, they won’t and they probably never will. And good luck hiring a five year old. They can’t keep a fucking deadline.
And in a last ditch effort they’ll say, “But that drawing only took you an hour!” Son, that drawing took me 20. fucking. years.
10 Dollars for 1 minute of animation. Oh my god my heart. It took my team 6 months and a team of 12 to make a 4 minute short.
I second this book! I’ve had it for several years now, and it’s been a HUGE help in my work as a freelance artist. It gives great advice on what to charge for different areas of art!
Please remember. Your art is worth a respectable payment! Accepting ridiculously low prices actually hurts the arts/illustration/animation communities because it makes employers believe they can employ people without offering decent pay.
Check the internet if you need help figuring out what you should be charging for your commissions. Invest in the books that will inform you professionally, and put your foot down if you think someone is trying to cheat you out of your time and hard work.
You have a right to refuse a job, and/or request decent payment. If your employer denies a you decent pay, well then they’re probably not a very good employer.
Do not undersell your skills. it is bad for the art community and you are worth more then that.
So at Supercon there was an artist (not naming names but those that were there would know) that was selling their prints for $3. Large 11x17 prints. Full colored illustrations. $3. When I asked them why they said $3 was enough to make a profit.
Um, maybe to cover the cost of printing yeah but full illustrations? I knew instantly they don’t have to worry about bills because spending several hours on art just to short sell it will leave them starving. They could easily have sold their work for $15 which is standard for that size and quality.
And what pissed me off even more was that selling large $3 prints makes every other artist look like their work is overpriced. I swear that caused damage to other’s profits because attendees now had a skewed perspective with price and judged others based on $3 prints.
It feeds the stereotype that art is cheap and an artist’s time and experience is cheap.
This makes me so damn angry. People underestimate the importance and value of illustration and how it is used in everyday life. $10 for a 1 minute video!? Are you fucking kidding me? If I turned round and said that your salary for a week’s worth of work was $10 you’d turn around and tell me to go to hell. Let alone that minimum wage is £6.31 per hour in the UK and $7.35 in the states.
Stop expecting artists and illustrators to work for free - It is their job, a skilled one at that, so stop insulting them and the industry with your ‘you will gain great exposure’ bullshit. They aren’t going to give you anymore exposure then the exposure you’d be able to generate yourself.
And it’s important to remind illustrators not to give in to this shit either. I was recently asked to do 4 illustrations for free because it would give me great exposure and they hadn’t budgeted a wage for the illustrator EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AN ILLUSTRATION PROJECT!!! I thought about it for about 2 minutes and realised ‘this won’t pay my rent or my bills’. It will also suggest that I am happy to work for free to other employers. It’s like picking up a sale item in a store and getting to the till and finding out it’s gone back to full price. You aren’t going to pay full price for that shit now you’ve found out you can get it cheaper. So make you are always the super high quality full price illustrator you deserve to be.
I started to think this way when I was given a great piece of advice by a fellow illustrator, krisatomic:
‘Don’t work for free. Once you’ve established a price, it’s impossible to make a client pay you more, ever. Asking for what you are worth is difficult, but you need to practise it. You will never feel bad about not getting a job because you quoted too high, but you will definitely feel bad for saying yes to something you were having second thoughts about because there was “no budget”. Those clients are almost always THE WORST. If there is no budget, they shouldn’t hire an illustrator. If you’re ever wavering, think about your student loan.’
So to summarise, you are a super awesome illustrator and you deserve to get paid like one and anyone that doesn’t think that can shove their job when the sun don’t shine.